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NEED HELP!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:42 pm
by wopdeeze
ok im about to reflash with the stage 2 base map just to see how it does, but these are the parts i have on my 04 wrx wagon, i was wondering if anybody could help point me in the right direction for modifying this base map.
VF39 from 04 STI
Tanabe Catless DP
GT SPEC header
Helix UP
Tanabe Super Racing Medallion CBE
AEM Cold Air
STI TMIC
will be buying Pink injectors soon.
Re: NEED HELP!

Posted:
Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:02 pm
by ev8siv3
wopdeeze wrote:ok im about to reflash with the stage 2 base map just to see how it does, but these are the parts i have on my 04 wrx wagon, i was wondering if anybody could help point me in the right direction for modifying this base map.
VF39 from 04 STI
Tanabe Catless DP
GT SPEC header
Helix UP
Tanabe Super Racing Medallion CBE
AEM Cold Air
STI TMIC
will be buying Pink injectors soon.
You might want to start with a VF34/VF30 style map first, and most of those maps are modified for use with the Pinks so your Stage2 map might be running lean off the bat without them.

Posted:
Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:45 am
by wopdeeze
Thanks for the info, do you know where i can find a VF34/VF30 map? i was looking at the one you have on your fourm for the 05 AT but the map made no sense at all, the data maps were messed up it looked like

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:19 am
by moose
wopdeeze wrote:Thanks for the info, do you know where i can find a VF34/VF30 map? i was looking at the one you have on your fourm for the 05 AT but the map made no sense at all, the data maps were messed up it looked like
I found the same downloading a VF34 map from there for my 05 MT WRX. The boost values at 4800 RPM were really weird looking and the injectors were set to 380cc though the map says pinks...

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:25 am
by ev8siv3
moose wrote:wopdeeze wrote:Thanks for the info, do you know where i can find a VF34/VF30 map? i was looking at the one you have on your fourm for the 05 AT but the map made no sense at all, the data maps were messed up it looked like
I found the same downloading a VF34 map from there for my 05 MT WRX. The boost values at 4800 RPM were really weird looking and the injectors were set to 380cc though the map says pinks...
I'll take a look at it, i might have missed something.

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:54 am
by moose
ev8siv3 wrote:moose wrote:wopdeeze wrote:Thanks for the info, do you know where i can find a VF34/VF30 map? i was looking at the one you have on your fourm for the 05 AT but the map made no sense at all, the data maps were messed up it looked like
I found the same downloading a VF34 map from there for my 05 MT WRX. The boost values at 4800 RPM were really weird looking and the injectors were set to 380cc though the map says pinks...
I'll take a look at it, i might have missed something.
What I found was that at 2800 RPM the values looked fine, then at 4800 they were negative for everything up to something like 35% throttle, then at 5200 rpm they were fine again.

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:05 pm
by ev8siv3
That was my bad, I re-did the VF34 map and everything should be good to go now! I haven't done the MT map yet, I'll get to that later but the AT map is set.

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:14 pm
by moose
ev8siv3 wrote:That was my bad, I re-did the VF34 map and everything should be good to go now! I haven't done the MT map yet, I'll get to that later but the AT map is set.
Keep us posted -- I need the MT one so will d/l it when it's ready.

And thanks!

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:56 pm
by ev8siv3
moose wrote:ev8siv3 wrote:That was my bad, I re-did the VF34 map and everything should be good to go now! I haven't done the MT map yet, I'll get to that later but the AT map is set.
Keep us posted -- I need the MT one so will d/l it when it's ready.

And thanks!
MT is ready.

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:06 pm
by moose
Awesome!
Quick question if you don't mind: why the 478.12cc in injector scaling?
Boost map looks a lot better than rev2.


Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:20 pm
by ev8siv3
moose wrote:Awesome!
Quick question if you don't mind: why the 478.12cc in injector scaling?
Boost map looks a lot better than rev2.

The values in the Scaling are different because you are using an older version of XML definitions. The scaling will match what C0BB uses but this is a much more defined formula. I use Enginuity 3.2 (beta) but you can download 3.1 and the latest XML defs over at
www.enginuity.org right now and see what I use.
The cc's are actually 528cc, stock are equivalent to 420cc with the correct formula (not 380cc). You will find this map works very well =)

Posted:
Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:30 pm
by moose
ev8siv3 wrote:moose wrote:Awesome!
Quick question if you don't mind: why the 478.12cc in injector scaling?
Boost map looks a lot better than rev2.

The values in the Scaling are different because you are using an older version of XML definitions. The scaling will match what C0BB uses but this is a much more defined formula. I use Enginuity 3.2 (beta) but you can download 3.1 and the latest XML defs over at
www.enginuity.org right now and see what I use.
The cc's are actually 528cc, stock are equivalent to 420cc with the correct formula (not 380cc). You will find this map works very well =)
I'll DL enginuity 3.1/3.2 and check it out -- thanks for your help!
It'll be interesting to see if I have to do some tweaks for the ported/polished VF34 I'm running. The C0bb 2.5 OTS map couldn't hit target boost until I added a helper spring. I was seeing 14 and after a week or so I tried the spring and hit 17 regularly. I'm guessing the WG duty cycles weren't setup to allow for the P&P'd turbo?
hmmm...

Posted:
Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:52 pm
by blurexwagon
...pretty interesting, considering I have a cai and just read this...:
http://forums.openecu.org/viewtopic.php?t=2600
Freon wrote:The problem with base maps is that they will never work right on cars with too many mods. Having anything but a stock intake probably rules you out for a stage/base/pretuned map.
Where are you located? Maybe you can find a tuner local.

Posted:
Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:02 pm
by Freon
Yeah you really should check with a wideband trying to run a base map on a car with a new intake to insure your AFR curve looks good. Intakes can throw things way off.