Evo IX JDM GSR

Postby S54fan » Sat May 20, 2006 12:13 pm

I had a few difficulties. In the end I loaded up ECUedit and loaded in the ROM and it asked for details. I said that it did not inherit any other definition and then defined one fuel map just to see the structure.

I then exited ECUedit and pasted in DarkEvo's xml stuff between the <map> and </map> entries. Then the maps all appeared. Think some work needs to be done on a few bits of scaling, but the most interesting thing is how all these maps work - which one is used in which circumstance.
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Postby S54fan » Mon May 29, 2006 4:39 am

Anyone found the open loop RPM setting in the IX ECUs?

Whilst we have the open loop throttle and load curves, there is apparently another one which over-rides it - below this RPM it is closed loop anyway.

I'm having lift off detonation - sometimes audible in cabin - worst at 3500 RPM if I run 22 PSI. On full load running through this zone it is OK, but if I lift before about 4500 RPM I get knock.
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Postby S54fan » Mon May 29, 2006 9:05 am

It runs open loop from just off idle on full throttle, so this is not the issue. Hopefully a change to the fuel or ignition maps will sort it.
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Postby S54fan » Mon May 29, 2006 11:41 am

Lean spool RPM at 3500 seems to make it leaner during spool I gather, and it is common to drop this setting to 2500 RPM. I had read this was related to anti-lag, but it seems apparently not.
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Postby Nemis » Wed May 31, 2006 8:19 am

S54fan wrote:I had a few difficulties. In the end I loaded up ECUedit and loaded in the ROM and it asked for details. I said that it did not inherit any other definition and then defined one fuel map just to see the structure.

I then exited ECUedit and pasted in DarkEvo's xml stuff between the <map> and </map> entries. Then the maps all appeared. Think some work needs to be done on a few bits of scaling, but the most interesting thing is how all these maps work - which one is used in which circumstance.


i have do this:
save and rename 8857-08.txt to jd8857-08.xml in EcuEdit directory
open your evo map, select inherit jd8857-08 ...
so all map appared

same with jdm8859-14 and other rom image ;-)
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Postby turbocharged » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:34 am

S54fan wrote:Think some work needs to be done on a few bits of scaling, but the most interesting thing is how all these maps work - which one is used in which circumstance.


Just checking if there's an updated XML with the proper scalings :D
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Postby nvr2fast » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:29 am

bump... seems lots of JDM Evo IXs have this firmware.
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Postby nvr2fast » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:40 am

Nemis wrote:
S54fan wrote:I had a few difficulties. In the end I loaded up ECUedit and loaded in the ROM and it asked for details. I said that it did not inherit any other definition and then defined one fuel map just to see the structure.

I then exited ECUedit and pasted in DarkEvo's xml stuff between the <map> and </map> entries. Then the maps all appeared. Think some work needs to be done on a few bits of scaling, but the most interesting thing is how all these maps work - which one is used in which circumstance.


i have do this:
save and rename 8857-08.txt to jd8857-08.xml in EcuEdit directory
open your evo map, select inherit jd8857-08 ...
so all map appared

same with jdm8859-14 and other rom image ;-)


None of that works for me. I renamed 8857-08.txt to jd8857-08.xml and dumped it in the same folder along with all the XML files :

C:\Program Files\OpenECU\EcuFlash\rommetadata\mitsubishi\evo

And when i select the definition file to use, jdm8857-08 is not listed. I even tried renaming that file to various other things, no luck.

In fact, I looked at the contents of the XML files, and it seems DarkECU's is very different, so am I putting this in the wrong place?

For example, top bit of 88590013.xml:


<rom>
<romid>
<xmlid>88590013</xmlid>
<internalidaddress>f52</internalidaddress>
<internalidhex>88590013</internalidhex>
<make>Mitsubishi</make>
<market>USDM</market>
<model>Lancer</model>
<submodel>EVO9</submodel>
<transmission>Manual</transmission>
<year>2006</year>
<flashmethod>mitsukernelocp</flashmethod>
<memmodel>SH7055</memmodel>
</romid>

<include>evo9base</include>

<table name="High Octane Fuel Map" address="2dbd">
<table name="Engine Load" address="6ec8" elements="20"/>
<table name="RPM" address="6ea0" elements="15"/>
</table>

<table name="Low Octane Fuel Map" address="2ef5">
<table name="Engine Load" address="6ec8" elements="20"/>
<table name="RPM" address="6ea0" elements="15"/>
</table>




but top bit of DarkECU's XML file:

<ecu_struct id="8857-08" type="JM8857-08 -> 1860A501 EVO 9 JDM GSR" include="">
<map name="2ABD -> Fuel Map High Octane" type="3" active="1" help="The coolant temperature that must be exceeded for closed loop fuelling operation." >
<cols count="20" format="%.f" func_2val="[value]/32*10" func_val2="[value]/10*32" offset="#5FA8" power="2" caption="Engine Load (%)" desc="Engine Load (%)" signed="False" reverse_bytes="True" />
<rows count="15" format="%.f" func_2val="[value]/128*500" func_val2="[value]/500*128" offset="#5F80" power="2" caption="Engine Speed (RPM)" desc="Engine Speed (RPM)" signed="False" reverse_bytes="True" />
<data order="RC" format="%.2f" func_2val="14.7/([value] / 128)" func_val2="(14.7/[value] * 128)" offset="#2ABD" power="1" caption="Fuel Map Val (AFR)" desc="Fuel Map Val (AFR)" signed="False" reverse_bytes="True" color_dir="0" inc="20" incb="170" inc_dir="1" />
</map>
<map name="2BF5 -> Fuel Map Low Octane" type="3" active="1" help="" >
<cols count="20" format="%.f" func_2val="[value]/32*10" func_val2="[value]/10*32" offset="#5FA8" power="2" caption="Engine Load (%)" desc="Engine Load (%)" signed="False" reverse_bytes="True" />
<rows count="15" format="%.f" func_2val="[value]/128*500" func_val2="[value]/500*128" offset="#5F80" power="2" caption="Engine Speed (RPM)" desc="Engine Speed (RPM)" signed="False" reverse_bytes="True" />
<data order="RC" format="%.2f" func_2val="14.7/([value] / 128)" func_val2="(14.7/[value] * 128)" offset="#2BF5" power="1" caption="Fuel Map Val (AFR)" desc="Fuel Map Val (AFR)" signed="False" reverse_bytes="True" color_dir="0" inc="20" incb="170" inc_dir="1" />
</map>


I've searched everywhere, I can't seem to find any forum post on how to get it working.

Could someone please assist or if there is already a guide or howto, just direct me to the thread and i'll read it all myself... but I havne't found this info yet.

Thanks in advance!!!
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Postby S54fan » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:07 am

It appears that you are mixing up ECUedit xml and ECUflash xml files.

There is scaling for everything most will need for the JDM Evo IX in 88570008.xml I've posted for ECUflash. What are people looking for in particular that isn't there as particular scalings could be found by disassembly if there was a particular need to adjust or understand something important?
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Postby nvr2fast » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:25 am

S54fan wrote:It appears that you are mixing up ECUedit xml and ECUflash xml files.

There is scaling for everything most will need for the JDM Evo IX in 88570008.xml I've posted for ECUflash. What are people looking for in particular that isn't there as particular scalings could be found by disassembly if there was a particular need to adjust or understand something important?


Okay... stupid me...

So I guess everyone is using ECUedit, not ECUflash?

It seems ECUflash does most things ECUedit does, but I cannot find a definition for ECUflash 88570008... did you post it somewhere? Or I must download/install/pay for ECUedit?

EDIT: i just found it... i think the one you posted is at:
http://forums.openecu.org/viewtopic.php?t=859

But still want to know... why does everyone seem to use ECUedit instead of ECUflash? It seems very expensive at $150... :cry:
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Postby S54fan » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:55 am

I use ECUflash since you can edit and flash Mitsis in the one application.

I used ECUedit earlier/free versions to edit Mitsi maps before ECUflash had a lot more Mitsi support.
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