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Misfire Threshold

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:02 pm
by itp
There is a parameter in Ecuedit for changing the misfire thrsehold. I assume that increasing this number will increase the threshold. Am I right? Trying to see if my super-lite flywheel is throwing random misfire codes.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:47 pm
by JRSCCivic98
If you increase it you'll also decrease the ECU's ability to control knock at the same time... I believe.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:16 am
by itp
Really? How is that? I guess I don't see how they are related.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:44 pm
by JRSCCivic98
Ummm, because if you're misfiring your ECU needs to know this and throw the code. Whether or not it's because of your lightweight flywheel is not in question here... what is in question is how the ECU will detect knock/misfires if you turn that sensativity lower. The ECU uses the knock sensor to detect knock as well, but the CPS is also used I believe.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:20 pm
by itp
The ecu detect misfires by flucuations or break periods in the cam pos. sensor and the crank pos. sensor signals. There is a window of time that is allowable for these periods. Outside of these windows it will be consider a misfire. The knock sensor has nothing to do with detecting misfires.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:44 pm
by xswrex
JRSCCivic98 wrote:If you increase it you'll also decrease the ECU's ability to control knock at the same time... I believe.


are you serious??? do you know what misfire is?

Re: Misfire Threshold

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:52 pm
by xswrex
itp wrote:There is a parameter in Ecuedit for changing the misfire thrsehold. I assume that increasing this number will increase the threshold. Am I right? Trying to see if my super-lite flywheel is throwing random misfire codes.


on various roms i have seen a value of 10, where stock was 2. You might give that a shot

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:09 am
by itp
Thanks. I'll try it. I was just trying to see what ranges people are using. Have you seen any other side effects to changing this parameter?

Re: Misfire Threshold

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:36 am
by Jon [in CT]
itp wrote:There is a parameter in Ecuedit for changing the misfire thrsehold.
What is this parameter called? I can't find it.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:39 pm
by itp
In ecuedit 1.72 it is a 1d map called P301/2/3/4 misfire detection threshold.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:04 am
by Jon [in CT]
OK. That map seems to be missing for 32-bit ECUs.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:01 am
by itp
What ecu/car?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:50 am
by Jon [in CT]

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:01 am
by gethin
I'm getting misfire CEL's with the UTEC LC (completely normal with injector cut) so i'll try to up my threshold to 10 and see if it stops the CEL from coming on. It's at 1 right now.

Gethin.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:50 am
by FrSTi
gethin wrote:I'm getting misfire CEL's with the UTEC LC (completely normal with injector cut) so i'll try to up my threshold to 10 and see if it stops the CEL from coming on. It's at 1 right now.

Gethin.


You shouldn't get any more CE if you set your thresold to 10 ;)