Cannot read flash from Evo9 (UK FQ)

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Postby SilverBack » Thu May 25, 2006 11:53 am

I'm just left with resetting the ECU in the hope the problem will clear

I'm concerned about the noise of a solenoid under the dash as the 2 inits are sent to the car. Does everybody hear this or could it be an indicator an issue?
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Postby cboles » Thu May 25, 2006 11:55 am

the clicking is "normal" for the initialization.
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Postby SilverBack » Thu May 25, 2006 12:05 pm

cboles wrote:You have the white connector plugged in, right? I can see that the OpenPort is transmitting OK, because the software verifies everything it sends, and you would get an error if it wasn't transmitting OK. I test every cable, so a bad cable is unlikely. It seems to me that the initialization code may be different. If you can try reading from another car, we can rule out the cable completely.


I too feel it is not the cable.

Yeah, both connectors are in.

I'm going to pull the earth at the weekend to do a reset, as a last resort.

I'd love to be able to exclude the cable, but access to another IX might be difficult...
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Postby cboles » Thu May 25, 2006 1:00 pm

You can use an evo 8 to exclude the cable. The basic aspects of the flash methods are the same.
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Postby SilverBack » Fri May 26, 2006 12:43 pm

Well, reset the ECU. But still have the same error... :cry:

I've pulled the ECU out and these are the visable markings:

Mitsubish Electric Corp
1860A501
E6T46977 H
5323
0157

:?:
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Postby evoman » Fri May 26, 2006 4:55 pm

SilverBack wrote:Well, reset the ECU. But still have the same error... :cry:
:?:


Don't worry. It's normal.
This EVO ECU is "locked".
It use non standard boot init procedure...
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Postby SilverBack » Fri May 26, 2006 9:52 pm

"Don't worry. It's normal.
This EVO ECU is "locked".
It use non standard boot init procedure..."

:shock:

I thought only the ECUtek were 'locked' to protect the Tuners IP - not the standard ECU....

Why and how is this one 'Locked'?

cboles, what are your thoughts?
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Postby S54fan » Sat May 27, 2006 1:25 am

My IX GSR ECU has "1860A501" also.

Maybe Mitsi UK do reflash the IX FQ300/320 after all?
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Postby GTODesign » Sat May 27, 2006 3:19 am

S54fan wrote:My IX GSR ECU has "1860A501" also.

Maybe Mitsi UK do reflash the IX FQ300/320 after all?


I think you'll find all UK IX FQ's are Ecutek'd it just that the 340 is post registration.
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Postby SilverBack » Sat May 27, 2006 4:25 am

GTODesign wrote:
S54fan wrote:My IX GSR ECU has "1860A501" also.

Maybe Mitsi UK do reflash the IX FQ300/320 after all?


I think you'll find all UK IX FQ's are Ecutek'd it just that the 340 is post registration.


Are you sure?

Certainly, the dealer information does not indicate this. The 300 had induction, 320 had the induction and exhaust, and the 340 had induction, exhaust and ECU 'upgrade'. Would the 8 ECU and the 9 be that different?

I'm still unsure if the IX 340 upgrade is piggyback, swapped ECU or flash? I'm guessing not a swap as GSR codes match...

Is not E**TEK just reverse engineering aswell, why would Mitsu use it?

Can someone confirm?
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Postby GTODesign » Sat May 27, 2006 8:59 am

E8 and E9 ECU's are quite different. E8 FQ's used the GEMS piggyback whilst the E9 FQ's use E**tek (just like prodrive).

Bear in mind it's Colt Car Co that produce the FQ's from the base GSR model not Mitsu themselves. It would seem Ecutek alter the boot-loader on the E9 re-flash to prevent people such as ourselves from altering it. There will be a way around it, it's just the time and effort involved to do the job.

I cannot confirm that all the E9FQ's are E**tek'd, but it would appear that way.

If s54fan doesn't mind butchering his spare ECU, it might be worth taking a look through the MCu's HWM to see if there's a hardwire option to dump the ROM and bootloader.
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Postby S54fan » Sat May 27, 2006 9:20 am

Until I can reflash the GSR ECU I won't be able to do that as if there is a fault with doing that I have an undriveable car that I need for work.

There was an FQ340 ECU for £100-200 on Ebay recently which didn't sell and was readvertised.
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Postby SilverBack » Sat May 27, 2006 11:05 am

Thanks for the info, guys.

...and bugger it! That cooks plan 'A' then. :roll:

I too only have 1 ECU and it's in the car.

I’m guessing you can’t just plug a FQ340 ECU into an FQ320… immobiliser code issues?

So the dealers 320 to 340 upgrade would be an E**Tek map! They charge 1350 +vat :!:
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Postby S54fan » Sat May 27, 2006 12:09 pm

Don't know, it is chicken and egg - if you can't read it, you can't read the immobiliser code off it.
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Postby SilverBack » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:36 am

Thanks.

Are the keys coded to the ECU or the ECU coded to the keys?

I mean, if I get another ECU and get the imobiliser sorted on the second ECU, can I then just swap between the two or will the 're-code' need to be done each time the ECU is swapped?
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