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Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:16 pm
by ed_GST
tapki what did you do to make it work?

How your romid section of the definition looks?

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:09 am
by tapki
You should't use a RA interface to read-flash. Start read-flash with Colt 762Kb interface, add checksum module, and have fun.

If you don't have a 762Kb file, convert your firs time read (not after flash) original 512Kb file to 762Kb and edit .xml like for a Colt762Kb.

Everything will be fine.

Also, if you had flashed your ECU with Lancer RA interface, you can't Read it with Colt762Kb interface, becouse the file has changed during flash.
PM me if you need help.

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:14 am
by hackish
Mitsiman wrote:The software is not yet compatible with the 4G69 model lancer vehicles. You are lucky, the first couple we tried we locked the ecu's up and couldn't reflash abck to them.

Your only chance is to go back to a mitsubishi dealer and get the ecu reflashed by them back to stock.


I can recover them provided you have the original rom id. There are a few bugs in ecuflash that prevent it from working properly on these ECUs.

-Michael

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:11 pm
by Mitsiman
Hackish I am ready to do more work on these ECU's with you to get it sorted out. Just let me know what I need to do

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:36 pm
by VGergo
The Outlander turbo has the same ecu like the 2004-2005 lancer ralliart.. I had similiar problem as the somebody post with the Colt .
I can read out the ecu with ecuflash_1433150_win_beta and the OP 2.0 cable. Acamus write me the XML I can see the base tables. But when I open it Ecuflash always had problem with the checksums.
Than I did a test write with ecuflash_1433172_win_beta which was succesfull so I modifield the rev limiter flash it bacj and the car coudnt run again... just cranking. read out again the image and it was broken only 384k was writen back from the 512k.
With Colby help I got a special ecuflash the ecuflash 1433252 beta. With this I can write back the rom the car start up with 3cylinder max rev was around 1500rpm and no power... But it coud start up. My fortune was an Outlander turbo rom which was post here in an other topic by an Italian tuner some years ago. I can open it modify the immobilizier hex to mine flash back and the car was running fine again :D I was so so lucky because if trying to modify the rev limiter in the itialian guy rom and flash it back with ecuflash 1433252 beta the car was not running again... I can modify the immobilizier code to mine but can not the rev limiter and maybe other things ! :shock:
What coud be the problem ? Can someone help me ?

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:29 pm
by Mitsiman
The problem is even with the new beta version of the software, it is still not writing back properly and crashing the ecu.

Just going to hae to wait until a reliable version of ecuflash is available.

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:04 am
by VGergo
I would love this reliable version of ecuflash ! :) It is so strange that we are so close to the solution but not working.. only ecutek for a lot of money :S
We can test new versions and help in everything with the Outlander turbo just lets happening something ! :)

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:05 am
by VGergo
I would love this reliable version of ecuflash ! :) It is so strange that we are so close to the solution but not working.. only ecutek for a lot of money :S
We can test new versions and help in everything with the Outlander turbo just lets happening something ! :)

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:49 am
by tapki
VGergo,
Looks like you doing some thing wrong. I've got all those troubles you are talking about. Won't start, misfires, 3-cyl after read-write procedure.
You should use colt interface to read and flash ECU. Edit XML to read\write it like with Colt, not RA 512Kb usual interface. Add to XML <checksummodule>mitsucan</checksummodule> . Never use HEX's after reading\flashing with RA interface or without checksum module in XML.

I don't have any more troubles with those ECU's now.

Sorry for bad English

Vlad

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:16 pm
by CorrPerformance
tapki wrote:You should't use a RA interface to read-flash. Start read-flash with Colt 762Kb interface, add checksum module, and have fun.

If you don't have a 762Kb file, convert your firs time read (not after flash) original 512Kb file to 762Kb and edit .xml like for a Colt762Kb.

Everything will be fine.

Also, if you had flashed your ECU with Lancer RA interface, you can't Read it with Colt762Kb interface, becouse the file has changed during flash.
PM me if you need help.

Tapki when you say "Add checksum module" what is this exactly? Where is this feature enabled in the Ecuflash software? So then what XML file is it going to look at the Colt one?
This ECU I am trying to flash is a 2006 USDM (4g69)ralliart one.

Thanks in advance,
Alberto

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:14 pm
by tapki
example.xml

<rom>
<romid>
<xmlid>000000E6</xmlid>
<internalidaddress>f52</internalidaddress>
<internalidhex>000000E6</internalidhex>
<caseid>none</caseid>
<ecuid>none</ecuid>
<make>Mitsubishi</make>
<market>USDM</market>
<model>LancerRalliArt</model>
<submodel>N/A</submodel>
<transmission>Auto</transmission>
<year>2004</year>
<flashmethod>mitsubootloader</flashmethod>
<memmodel>M32176F6</memmodel>
*It can't be flashed with M32176F4 correctly (default for RalliArt 512K)
<checksummodule>mitsucan</checksummodule> *Without CHKSUM I've got a CEL and misfires
</romid>

for 1.42 I'm used a file from 1.43.170? beta, becouse of 1.43 crashed in Vista, but under XP everything was fine.

folder: "read templates"
file: read_mitsum32176f6boot.xml :

<rom>
<romid>
<xmlid>read_mitsum32176f6boot</xmlid>
<make>Mitsubishi</make>
<market>ALL</market>
<model>Colt</model>
<submodel>(768k)</submodel>
<year>2006+?</year>
<flashmethod>mitsubootloader</flashmethod>
<memmodel>M32176F6</memmodel>
<checksummodule>mitsucan</checksummodule>
</romid>
</rom>


I don't read with RA 2004-2006, it won't work for me
Image

I'm used next string "Colt 762K" 2006+ for all 4G69

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:56 pm
by Mitsiman
I just tested our australian lancer and this setup definitly won't work. I beleive there is a definite difference between our Australian and teh USA model ecu's. By the looks of it, the USA models can now be reflashed, with a minor change in the software. But our australian ECU's will require some more indepth research.

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:19 pm
by cboles
If someone has an ECU that isn't flashing correctly that they are willing to send it in, I would be happy to fix the problem for them. The problem with a lot of these Mitsu ECUs is that there are slight variations in the bootloader, memory size, erase block size, checksum, etc. between different models that are causing these problems. I think I already have all of the pieces - it just takes some experimentation to get the right combination of a particular ECU. Part of the problem can be fixed by coding on my part - part of the problem will be getting feedback as to what flashing options work with what models so I can put more detailed selections into the read options list.

Colby

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:10 pm
by Mitsiman
Colby you already had our australian ECU and I beleive hamish still has it with the etac controller. I can do any testing on a car here with any new software.

The USA models you will need to find someone in the USA to provide the ECU to finalise it but I beleive you are 99% of the way there for the USA model lancer ralliart ecu

Re: Help! Lancer RalliArt (512k) 04-05 mitsubootloader M3217

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:34 pm
by cboles
All of the ECUs I had on the bench here I was able to get working (ETACS notwithstanding - I didn't test them through the ETACS). As I understand it, the current issue is with ECUs slightly different than the ones I was able to test on. I also have some US Lancer ECUs here, but those particular ones appear to be working.