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OpenECU software executables and source code

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Postby bofh » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:40 pm

crazymikie wrote:First off, with the ability to modify your own ECU, I (and I think Colby stated this before) hope to see people start to learn more as they have tools readily available to them. Instead of just pirating other peoples' work, you could do your own tuning and get better results.

Also, running a tune that wasn't made for your car (a la EcuTek) may actually cause problems. There are always variations car to car and running a tune that is too aggressive may not work so well on your car.

Those were both me. :D As to the copyright of rom images, we are in a gray area here. Subaru could claim IP, but already sold us the image. Cobb could claim IP on the changes. However, reverse engineering is legal. That is how Cobb got there knowledge. Posting them for purposes of knowledge is protected. But when people start flashing the custom images, or worse yet, make a clone Access ECU to get the cheaper Access Port... Now they have a case. And if someone gets a strong case, a lot of stuff can be shut down through intimidation. After all, who of us can afford to fight a real legal battle?

For a solution, could we null the first few bytes of boot code? That way we are making the code unusable for any purpose other than study...
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Postby Spiider » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:30 pm

This project to me is definitely about knowledge and research, no one is profiting from it.

It's a bad idea to go and start posting controversial ecu dumps here.
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Postby Jeramie » Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:40 pm

I agree, keep it simple. No controversial ecu dumps.
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Postby YumGTR » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:20 pm

okay, i won't post any of the cobb or ecutek dumps that I am able to get to avoid any problems for the board or the cause in general. if anyone would like copies of what I get for research and comparison purposes, please let me know.

oh, and about the data points being identified already, is a tuning interface currently in development? if so, how far along is it?
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Postby Spiider » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:28 am

I don't think any official tuning interface is in development. I'd like to begin work on one.

I just finished with figuring out the offsets for the 2002 and 2004 stock wrx's. (well, most of them anyway.)

I'd like to get a format for describing the locations set down in stone before we get too far.
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Postby cboles » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:41 am

Did you see my other post regarding format proposals? What do you think?
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Postby Spiider » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:24 am

I like the idea of XML personally.

I think we need to get something agreed upon, especially now that we have something to populate it with. :)
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Postby ahains » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:23 am

Spiider wrote:I like the idea of XML personally.

I think we need to get something agreed upon, especially now that we have something to populate it with. :)


I just posted an XML Schema in that thread, please let me know if you have any suggestions/input.

Thanks!
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Postby bofh » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:00 am

I posted somewhere that if we had a way to strip the first few bits of boot code, we should be able to safely post anything after it has been sanitized. Should be simple to write, and then we can learn from them.
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Postby Efispecialist » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:22 pm

bofh wrote:I posted somewhere that if we had a way to strip the first few bits of boot code, we should be able to safely post anything after it has been sanitized. Should be simple to write, and then we can learn from them.


Could someone show me where to get the reprogramming ecu connector?
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Sure

Postby bofh » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:16 am

Buy it here,
http://www.tactrix.com/product_info.php?products_id=29
Or build it from Colby's schematics. I bought one.
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Postby Jeramie » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:21 am

I bought one as well. Can't go wrong there.
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Postby Student Driver » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:29 am

Ditto. When it's made that well, it just isn't worth the time and expense to make one for me.
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Postby realwomble » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:45 am

Wow. Awesome work Colby.
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Postby realwomble » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:50 am

I think crazymikie speaks much sense here.

I'd agree cobb/ecutek are likely on very shaky legal ground w.r.t. claiming any rights to their maps, but it's just not worth the hassle that could be caused by posting them.

Folks here easily have the expertise to come up with a similar solution.

crazymikie wrote:My honest opinion-

It's not worth causing trouble by posting Cobb's flashes or EcuTek's flashes here.

First off, with the ability to modify your own ECU, I (and I think Colby stated this before) hope to see people start to learn more as they have tools readily available to them. Instead of just pirating other peoples' work, you could do your own tuning and get better results.

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